Saturday, March 30, 2024

Temporal Forces Testing (Weeks 1-2)

I wanted to share my thought on decks and ideas I'm testing in these little entry of mine and my thoughts leading up to the Singapore Regional League Volume 3, which is a week after the European Internationals. I had paid some attention to the new rotation and watched most of the Fukuoka Champions League to have an idea of what is to come and where to start off my own testing. 


March 12 - Locals

This is the day where my focus on the game shifted from SV4 pre-rotation format to SV5 post-rotation format as our local league was switching all qualifying sessions for the Grandslam Invitational events (GSP) to post-rotation. We needed 14 points to qualify for the event and at that point I was still stuck at just 6 points. 


I took a Charizard ex/Pidgeot ex list I saw from ... and ran with it. I had been playing Zard/Pidgeot the moment Zard was released back in August, so you could say that's my comfort deck. I wanted to start off with something I knew and just adapt to the new changes.


R1 vs Zard/Pidgeot W

  • I actually lost the match but my friend Nicholas gave me the win as he wasn't making the invitational. It just came down to set-up, I never got a Pidgeot ex up, he did and just started picking off my board. 
  • Felt like the usual Zard mirrors pre-rotation. As in whoever sets up first wins and me always losing the Zard mirror for whatever reasons haha! Some things just don't change.

R2 vs Arceus/Alolan Vulpix L

  • The moment I saw Lake Acuity in Rag's mulligan, I knew I was in trouble, especially with him going first. I had seen many Arc/Pix lists to know they are the main ones playing Lake Acuity, also because I was also thinking of testing it myself.
  • I was trying to give up as many prizes as possible to stick his Vulpix at the best possible turn but he played around it, he just didn't KO my Rotom which hurt me as he was able to set up another attacker. I had a small shot of a comeback but he was too far ahead, boss for game for the win.

R3 vs Hisuian Goodra VSTAR/Klefki W

  • This was another matchup I was dreading. Goodra is huge and Mickey is THE Goodra player in our area. 
  • I got a bit lucky in this game, he had a turn he could heal his Goodra and chose not to and I got the perfect scenario to take a KO on it with Choice Belt. He couldn't come back after that.


Not the best first locals for me in the new rotation, hit the mirror and two very difficult matchups. But it's testing so we learn, we live, and we move on.


March 14 - Self Testing

Decided to do a little digging around to find decks to do my usual self-testing and went with decks featured from Celio's Network video to give me something to work with initially. Most of the lists I just copied from his video with a few I made immediate changes just to suit what I would do. 


What I would usually do is just what you think self-testing is. Set two decks aside, and play them myself just to learn how to play each matchups. I don't always play them correctly which is why I tend to keep re-playing the same lists just so I have a better idea of what I'm supposed to do.


Results:

Charizard ex/Pidgeot ex - 5 wins
Raging Bolt ex/Sandy Shock ex - 3 wins
Lugia VSTAR/Archeops - 2 wins
Arceus VSTAR/Giratina VSTAR - 2 wins
Gholdengo ex - 2 wins
Lost Zone Box - 1 win


The first games were all bo1, because I am playing in a bo1 regional after all. Then after that, I would take the top 4 decks and do a top 4 cut, but bo3 since our top cut games are also bo3. Lugia beat Charizard/Pidgeot in the first self-tourney finals, so Lugia is as good as expected. Even though Bolt-Shocks had 3 wins, I wasn't really impressed by it initially. Just ran hot honestly.



March 17 - Locals

Since Lugia won the latest self-challenge, I thought it'd be only fair to bring the exact list to local and give it a run to see how it would do in an actual tourney setting.


R1 vs Turbo Hands L

  • Yeah worst possible deck to hit in round one and it was Jeremy playing it
  • Miradon took out the smaller guys and Hands ex could easily KO Lugia VSTAR for the 3 prize turn. Next game!

R2 vs Arceus/Giratina W

  • Well if anyone should, I should know how to play against ArcTina since I play it all the time and have played it a lot in testing so far
  • Was a bit lucky to get a Lugia VSTAR ready to KO Arceus Turn 2 and that was it really.

R3 vs Charizard/Pidgeot W

  • This match went closer than expected, and it came down to Cruz missing something and I had my Minccino ready to KO his Zard to turn the match over to my favour in the late game.


March 17 - Self Testing

I decided to stick with pretty much the same lists from before but with Chien Pao now replacing Gholdengo and Lost Zone Giratina replacing Lost Zone Box (the other two ended up as the bottom two, good enough reason to replace them right?)


Results:

Chien-Pao ex/Baxcalibur - 5 wins
Arceus VSTAR/Giratina VSTAR - 3 wins
Giratina VSTAR (Lost Zone) - 2 wins
Lugia VSTAR/Archeops - 2 wins
Charizard ex/Pidgeot ex - 2 wins
Raging Bolt ex/Sandy Shock ex - 0 wins


ArcTina actually beat Chien-Pao in the finals 2-1 somehow. Was my first time testing out CP Bax and yeah it's good. Really good. It's one of the few decks that I've had little trouble with the set-up, the other, surprisingly, is ArcTina itself. Every other deck I've played have had troubling starts a number of times. 


Raging Bolt with the 0 win didn't surprise me, it was as awful as I first expected it to be.


March 19 - Self Testing

Still got decks based out of Celio's video for this one. I was being a bit lazy and didn't want to change much stuff around, I just wanted to see how each deck worked. Gardevoir replaced Raging Bolt and Zard Bibarel replaced the Pidgeot version.

Results:
Giratina VSTAR (Lost Zone) - 4 wins
Lugia VSTAR/Archeops - 3 wins
Arceus VSTAR/Giratina VSTAR - 3 wins
Charizard ex/Bibarel - 2 wins
Chien-Pao ex/Baxcalibur - 2 wins
Gardevoir - 1 win

ArcTina won again! This time it beat Zard/Bibarel in finals (2-0 score). After all I said about Chien-Pao before, yup it did brick a lot this time around so maybe some things haven't really changed. One thing that did change, Gardevoir feels more awful post-rotation. The set-up takes a while to get going. It does smack Lugia which is funny.


March 19 - Locals

I had to bring ArcTina to locals! You know me, I have to try it out.


R1 vs Charizard/Pidgeot with Spidops ex W

  • This was a weird Zard/Pidg list, it had Spidops in it
  • I got the perfect set-up, Iron Leaves did it's thing and got the W

R2 vs Chien-Pao/Baxcalibur W

  • Not my favourite matchup but if I can set-up perfectly early on, it's winnable and that's how it turned out. He was missing a few stuff and I got the KO on CP and they had a hard time trading prizes after that. 

R3 vs Charizard/Bibarael W (I actually lost but Bryan gave me the win)

  • This one was painful, I had a hard time setting up and was playing catchup to Bryan the whole time, and couldn't get back into the game in time. Missing Turn 1 EA (Energy + Arceus) is a recipe for disaster.
  • He was nice enough to give me the win since he wasn't playing in the invitational. I ended up finishing in first place which got me the 4 points I needed to qualify for the GSP Invitational #7. Job done!  

March 20 - Self Testing
I finally decided to change up the lists and I went to Azul GG's videos for inspiration this time and took lists he said he would play and decided to give them a try. Didn't change any of the deck selections.

Results:
Charizard ex/Bibarel - 5 wins
Giratina VSTAR (Lost Zone) - 3 wins
Chien-Pao ex/Baxcalibur - 3 wins
Arceus VSTAR/Giratina VSTAR - 2 wins
Gardevoir - 2 wins
Lugia VSTAR/Archeops - 0 wins

First things first, Lugia with 0 wins? As strong as the deck is, I can't say I'm surprised this can happen because Lugia is that type of a deck. If you can set-up, you're in a good spot and in many of my games in this testing session, I couldn't set up at all. As good as it probably is, this is one reason why I don't think I would go for Lugia for the regionals.

Who won? For the third time in a row, it's ArcTina! This time it beat Lost Tina 2-1 in the finals. This deck keeps finding ways to survive and win from what I've seen so far.

Having done two sessions playing Zard/Pidg and then Zard/Bib, I wasn't sure which one I liked better honestly. Zard Pidg got me 7 wins in total (pre cut) but Zard Bib also got me 7 wins in total (pre cut). Zard Pidg felt stronger as you could find whatever you neeed thanks to Pidgeot but also felt a bit more fragile because of the lack of drawing power which for me is the key selling point of Zard Bib. I'm still undecided which way I would go if I decided to play Zard again for the Regional.



March 26 - Locals
Took a bit of a short break from the format to focus on pre-rotation stuff with the two Town Leagues I got to play over the weekend. Decided to have some fun and play Arceus/Armarouge for locals. I had just started testing it in locals and in online events and it was impressing me with how good it felt so I wanted to give it a try.

R1 vs Giratina VSTAR (Lost Zone) L
  • Just the usual case of not getting EA Sports in Turn 1 (Energy + Arceus) and it set me way back
  • Mew ex did give me a few cheeky KOs and it felt really good in the deck with how it worked

R2 vs Turbo Iron Hands W
  • My opponent just could not set-up and by the time he had anything going, I had my Armarouge ex ready to hit for 280! That's when it brought back great memories, it felt as if I was playing Centiskorch VMAX again. I mean the attack is pretty much the same, just doesn't feel the same though. 
R3 vs Giratina VSTAR (Lost Zone) W
  • Much more even game this time around. I got the win but I gave Ray the win when I heard he needed one more point to get into the GSP Invitational event
  • Armarouge ex and Delphox V put in work in this matchup

March 27 - Self Testing
My biggest self testing yet. I went from 6 decks to 8 decks! That was a first for me, but also meant more games to be played. I ended up using my brother's Charizard/Bibarel deck so I could test both versions and also added Ancient Box for the first time. All the lists I took were from the first few big online events that featured TEF cards.

Results:
Lugia VSTAR/Archeops - 6 wins
Chien-Pao ex/Baxcalibur - 5 wins
Arceus VSTAR/Armarouge  - 5 wins
Charizard ex/Pidgeot ex - 5 wins
Charizard ex/Bibarel - 3 wins
Giratina VSTAR (Lost Zone) - 3 wins
Gardevoir ex - 1 win
Ancient Box - 0 wins

Lugia wins again, it beat Arceus/Armarouge in finals and quite convincingly sadly. Made me wonder if Arc/Arm was actually good or I was just getting lucky with how my games went. CP Bax and Zard/Pidg also getting 5 wins did confirm my suspicion that those two might be the two best decks in the format currently, along with Lost Zone Box which I hadn't tested yet.




I've also done a number of online tournaments in this new format when the set was officially released on the 22nd and here's just a run-down of how my events have been so far:

Arceus VSTAR/Giratina VSTAR: (Total record 8/8/1)
  • TOURNAMENT OF DOOM! Temporal Forces Legal
    • 3/2/1 - 45th/154
    • Matchups:
      • Snorlax Control T
      • Lost Box W
      • Ancient Box L
      • Zard/Bibarel W
      • Blastoise ex/Palkia W
      • Espathra L
  • Ditto Forces #2! 100 Codes!
    • 0/2/0 - 165th/175
    • Matchups:
      • Lugia L
      • Torterra L
  • PokeDeck #47
    • 3/2/0 - 12th/33
    • Matchups:
      • Turbo Gholdengo L
      • Lost Box W
      • Zard/Pidgeot W
      • Espathra W
      • Ancient Box L
  • Pokémon Battle Park (Mar 29)
    • 2/2/0 - 114th/221
    • Matchups:
      • Bye W
      • SableZard LZ Paradox L
      • Snorlax/Pidgeot Control W
      • Lugia L
Arceus VSTAR/Armarouge: (Total record: 6/5/0)
  • Cinnabar Island Tournament #32
    • 0/2/0 - 148th/171
    • Matchups:
      • Lost Box L
      • Lugia L
  • Sparkling Pokémon TCG Live #23
    • 4/2/0 - 4th/24
    • Matchups:
      • Lost Box W
      • Incineroar L
      • CP Bax W
      • Snorlax Control W
      • Lost Box W
      • Incineroar LWL
  • Late Night 179
    • 2/1/0 - 144th/268
    • Matchups:
      • Arceus/Bibarel W
      • Gardevoir W
      • Zard/Pidgeot L
Charizard ex/Pidgeot ex: (Total record: 9/9/0)
  • Redacted Forces #1
    • 0/2/0 - 141st/171
    • Matchups:
      • Lugia L
      • Zard/Pidgeot L
  • EUIC Prep Series #1
    • 4/2/0 - 19th/95
    • Matchups:
      • Espathra L
      • Bye W
      • Turbo Moon W
      • Raging Bolt W
      • Ancient Box W
      • Lugia L
  • Sunny's Weekly #148
    • 2/2/0 - 45th/115
    • Matchups:
      • Zard/Pidgeot W
      • Pidgeot ex Control W
      • Ancient Box L
      • Gholdengo/Kirlia L
  • Peladão da Baixada #104
    • 3/3/0 - 14th/53
    • Matchups:
      • Lugia W
      • Zard/Bibarel W
      • Raging Bolt L
      • Zard/Pidgeot W
      • Zard/Bibarel L
      • Lost Box L
Yeah not had the best of luck online so far, almost every event has been an x-2 drop. Still plenty to test and hopefully I'll have a better idea of what I want to play come Singapore Regional Vol. 3 and also the GSP Invitational #7, it'll be in the new rotation so I have to find something quick. Thanks for reading!